这么多年来应该给哦个勋章 hoho~~

从1.0开始我就在我周围推广firefox hoho 如今我们公司80%多用了firefox 同时病毒拉 恶意网页等 几乎消失。对于企业用户 其实推广firefox很有必要，他的安全性太好了。
然后万事有利也必有弊，以前人家电脑中毒或给篡改主页后 我给人家搞搞也能弄包烟抽抽，自从推荐他们用firefox后 鸟了，人家没事了，外快也少了 哎。。

呵呵，一伙假洋鬼子

嗬嗬，英文对英文

都是英语强人，上面的那几段英文俺一句也没有看动

都是英语强人，上面的那几段英文俺一句也没有看动

Xi'AN

ABC说他是港人，楼上的老大是哪里人？

Hopefully you are correct and they won't do this to other competitors, especially FF/gecko based products.

Well, Just dont be too serious, i dont care what Ben said, i also dont care what Asa said, (he kept attacking Linux in recent blogs, altho what he said is kinda right). This is blog, personal space, not hired by anybody, and not listen to anybody but themselves if they want.

well, Mozilla.org only said "Ben is currently not employed by Mozilla". which is true.
That means "what Ben said is not an official opinion from mozilla.org", which i agree.

First, I don't think that one has to be an employee or has to be paid to represent an entity. That could be merely appointment and acceptance. And AFAIK many open source projects don't have any employee at all.

Ben was the "lead engineer" and was representing mozilla in that role for some time. If he continued to be the "lead engineer", he continued to represent mozilla whether get paid or not. The only question is whether he remained as the "lead engineer" after he changed his job. And evidences are positive.

He couldn't have been describing himself the "lead engineer" without mozilla's implicit or explicit permission, at least not in a blog hosted by mozillazine or after this instance (the latest entry is dated 22/7). Not that I meant the blog is official, I mean that mozilla was awared of how Ben's presenting himself and accepted that.

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I must say, privatey, on their own blogs, many Mozilla.org guys show the disappointed attitude towards today's NS, so there is no surprise they dont like the new NS8, but as a developer for open-source mozilla.org, they can not force other NS fans (like me) to agree with them on this. And they are not seeking people to agree with them neither, so I see no problem here.
Here is the fact, i simply dont think they hate NS just because NS is producing the same products as they do, i would rather describe that attitude as "deeply disappointed towards the degradation of their be-loved brand".

Hopefully you are correct and they won't do this to other competitors, especially FF/gecko based products.

ABC实在不了解OPENSOURCE和自由的含义，这也难怪了。

well, Mozilla.org only said "Ben is currently not employed by Mozilla". which is true.
That means "what Ben said is not an official opinion from mozilla.org", which i agree.
I must say, privatey, on their own blogs, many Mozilla.org guys show the disappointed attitude towards today's NS, so there is no surprise they dont like the new NS8, but as a developer for open-source mozilla.org, they can not force other NS fans (like me) to agree with them on this. And they are not seeking people to agree with them neither, so I see no problem here.
Here is the fact, i simply dont think they hate NS just because NS is producing the same products as they do, i would rather describe that attitude as "deeply disappointed towards the degradation of their be-loved brand".

As I mentioned, and you can read in the above link, Mozilla had already clarified that Ben was no longer its employee before that instance

But interestingly Ben is still the "lead engineer of mozilla firefox" and continues to talk about the inside development of firefox in his "personal" blog hosted by mozillazine.

If that's meant by "open source", more power to ya.

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这个我很好奇，但是我没有查到，你不妨列一下详细地址，谢。
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Oops! Should be the inquirer. Here's the link:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23427

nighttalker：
这个我很好奇，但是我没有查到，你不妨列一下详细地址，谢。
对于mozilla开发人员和netscape的关系，作为一个ns的fans我自然也不喜欢他们职责NS，但是我对他们的做法也理解，我读过Asa和Blake Ross的两篇文章，其中blake的就叫做“现在的NS已经不是过去的NS了”。１０年前的网景是创新的代名词，现在的网景则在AOL的商业枷锁下沦落为傀儡，现在Mozilla的很多人员原先都在网景工作，对于NS感情不是那么简单可以描述的。对于AOL对NS的Torture他们无法容忍，认为AOL在侮辱internet最具创新的品牌（btw,我很支持这个观点。)回到原帖

嗯，对于BEN的行为我也表示理解，但对NS我还是支持的。这只是内部的技术矛盾。这种矛盾和与M＄的矛盾是天壤之别。

orizng：I agree the blogs hosted at mozillazine.org can not be treated as "official Mozilla press site". Because it is simply not.回到原帖

我也是这么认为的。